November 7, 2005

JenellyBean: The Angry BLACK Woman

I read this article a while back off an online chat forum I chat on regularly.
As always I have very deep opinions.
Read the article and tell me what you think.
My commentst are below the article.
I'm really interested in ANYTHING you have to say
This is an open discussion and I can't converse alone--try it, it just doesn't work.


Take the female and run a series of tests on her to see if she will submit to you desires willingly. Test her in every way, because she is the most important factor for good economic. If she shows any signs of resistance in submitting completely to your will, do not hesitate to use the bull whip on her to extract that last bit of bitch out of her. Take care not to kill her, for in doing so, you spoil good economics. When in complete submission, she will train her offspring in the early years to submit to labor when they become of age. Understanding is the best thing.

Therefore, we shall go deeper into this area of the subject matter concerning what we have produced here in this breaking of the female nigger. We have reversed the relationship. In her natural uncivilized state she would have a strong dependency on the uncivilized nigger male, and she would have a limited protective dependency toward her independent male offspring and would raise female offspring to be dependent like her. Nature had provided for this type of balance. We reversed nature by burning and dependent like her. Nature had provided for this type of balance. We reversed nature by burning and pulling one civilized nigger apart and bull whipping the other to the point of death--all in her presence. By her being left alone, unprotected, with male image destroyed, the ordeal cased her to move from her psychological dependent state to a frozen independent state. In this frozen psychological state of independence she will raise her male and female offspring in reversed roles. For fear of the young male's life she will psychologically train him to be mentally weak and dependent but physically strong. Because she has become psychologically independent, she will train her female offspring to be psychological independent as well. What have you got? You've got the nigger woman out front and the nigger man behind and scared.

I agree to a certain extent.

Take it back to slavery days, where you have White men and women on to obviously different levels. The White female was the weak dependent creature--and this signified "true womanhood"--where as the White male was very domineering over everything and this is what it meant to be a man.

They put Blacks on plantations and didn't allow for us to create this same type of gender system. Black men and Black women were equasl--they did the same work and got same treatment, but Black women had an extra toll against them--we had to raise children and we were raped--On the flip side Black men were constantly accused of rape and as a result were lynched. So either way Black men and women alike had tough times.

But even after slavery Black families could never really establish this gender system because it was essential for Black women to work. Black men wanted to go out and provide for their families and have it so their wives were able to stay home and raise the children, but racism made it so the Black mother had to leave her home and work in the White mans home as his nanny, maid, or laundry girl. Black boys were sent out to work instead of going to school to earn money for the family where as Black girls were sent to school instead of work, because going out the home to work was very dangerous--they could potentially be raped. Once again the Black mans claim to dominance over his race was knocked down to a somewhat equal level.

In the media they portrayed Black men as the SAMBO--The Happy Ignorant Darkey that loved acting foolish, had no type of responsibility and was constantly nagged by the very dominant, outspoken, loud, ugly MAMMY. Showing that the Black man was childlike, like a baby that constantly needed guidance from a mother. Again and again and again they reversed our gender roles.

All this pressure on any man would make them either crumble or demand respect.

These portrayals played into many minds that this was a true depiction of the Black Family and in conjunction with all of the Black female activism by women like Francis Ellen Harper, Maria Stewart, Ida B. Wells-Barnett, Mary Church Terell etc... These roles portrayed in the media seemed to exist exactly as they saw. So yes we have been raised to be more "independent" because our foremothers were this same way, but I disagree with the author that this is merely psychological.

I also disagree that Black mothers "will raise their male and female offspring in reversed roles. For fear of the young male's life she will psychologically train him to be mentally weak and dependent but physically strong." Black women understand the importance of Black men being well educated, responsible, mature, and representing their race to the fullest. They strive to raise men that will take care of their families and do all things within the families best interest. But they (mothers) too have it instilled within them to raise their daughters in a manner that will ensure their mental and physical safety in the future--Independence.

Come on--Learn our history before you open your mouth to make generlizations about my people!


chele said...

That was deep. What is the answer? I am raising a son and a daughter alone. I admit, I tend to "love" my son and "raise" my daughter. I never want my daughter to feel as though she has to depend on anybody. I should be doing the same for my son, I know.

I did not choose my circumstances, however, I refuse to be a victim of them either. I would have loved to havae stayed married and raise my children in a traditional household. It just didn't work out that way. I have to be strong and independent even if that makes me look like a bitch. I have to take care of mine and that's the bottom line.

I have to deal with the double edged sword: My children see a strong woman, a positive role model but I don't want them to think that our situation is the ideal. I don't want my son to think that it's okay to get a girl pregnant and leave her because "she'll be okay -- Ma did it". Know what I mean?

JenellyBean said...

Yes, Chele I know what you mean.

My father has always been a strong part of my life, but he is not here. My mother and I have always been together and I go "visit" my Dad. Things just happend that way, but he's always been here for me.

It's interesting how you can admit that you " tend to love your son and raise your daughter", but at the same time you want him to know certain things aren't okie.

I'm no parent, Chele, and I have no intentions of making judgements against you and how you raise your children, my questions are truly innocent and through them I seek understanding.

So please tell me this: the same way that you choose to "raise" your daughter so that she is not to be dependent on anyone why don't you raise your son to know that it's not okie to leave a woman after she is pregnant or that it is not okie to degrade women?

You can "raise" him this way through the "love" you have for him. They can be coextensive.

chele said...

You're right and I am becoming more aware of my actions. I'm teaching him more things instead of doing everything for him. Funny, I've been doing this for my daughter since she started school. Recently, my son made a statement that it was okay that his Dad didn't come around that often because "he has a life, too". That was when I knew I had to make some changes so he knows it's not okay. When people (both men and women) decide to have children -- your children are your life and parents have to take a back seat. If you're not ready to take a back seat don't have children.

JenellyBean said...

I'm happy that you are making the changes that YOU feel are necessary to give your son the proper consciousness.

How old is he?
How old is your daughter?

chele said...

Baby boy is 15. Baby girl is 11.

JenellyBean said...

You have a grown ass MAN!


I'm sure he's breaking hearts already huh?

chele said...

He has the potential to break many hearts. I can't keep track of all the little girls that call here. My boy is just realizing how good looking he is ... of course I've always known it.


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